GMO American Chestnuts - will the King of the Eastern Forests return? - silvopasture2024-03-29T10:04:12Zhttp://silvopasture.ning.com/forum/topics/gmo-american-chestnuts-will-the-king-of-the-eastern-forests-retur?commentId=6457695%3AComment%3A15823&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=nosome good new (maybe?) for th…tag:silvopasture.ning.com,2017-05-18:6457695:Comment:158232017-05-18T16:30:59.916ZBrett Chedzoyhttp://silvopasture.ning.com/profile/BrettChedzoy
<p>some good new (maybe?) for those of you holding a special spot in your silvopastures for American Chestnuts</p>
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<tr><td valign="top" width="100%"><p>PHILADELPHIA — The nearly century-old effort to employ selective breeding to rescue the American chestnut, which has been rendered…</p>
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<p>some good new (maybe?) for those of you holding a special spot in your silvopastures for American Chestnuts</p>
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<tr><td width="100%" valign="top"><p>PHILADELPHIA — The nearly century-old effort to employ selective breeding to rescue the American chestnut, which has been rendered functionally extinct by an introduced disease -- Chestnut blight, eventually will succeed, but it will take longer than many people expect. That is the gist of find...</p>
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</table> Can't disagree with the point…tag:silvopasture.ning.com,2015-03-03:6457695:Comment:115582015-03-03T13:58:02.252ZBrett Chedzoyhttp://silvopasture.ning.com/profile/BrettChedzoy
<p>Can't disagree with the points made above. Just sharing news on ESF's program to bring back the American Chestnut. Personally, I don't lump this project and it's goal into the same basket as planting tens of millions of acres per year of GMO row crops. If these trees are eventually made available to the public, I plan to plant some on our farm - just as I continue to fill the gas tank in my car despite my knowledge of the downside to using fossil fuels.</p>
<p>Can't disagree with the points made above. Just sharing news on ESF's program to bring back the American Chestnut. Personally, I don't lump this project and it's goal into the same basket as planting tens of millions of acres per year of GMO row crops. If these trees are eventually made available to the public, I plan to plant some on our farm - just as I continue to fill the gas tank in my car despite my knowledge of the downside to using fossil fuels.</p> Thanks Brett,
The article sta…tag:silvopasture.ning.com,2015-03-02:6457695:Comment:114842015-03-02T15:20:36.573ZBrian Anthonyhttp://silvopasture.ning.com/profile/BrianAnthony
<p><a href="http://silvopasture.ning.com/?vkey=2bc76a7e2e3860487ba343ca49e4b486&xg_source=msg_verify_email">T</a>hanks Brett,</p>
<p>The article states that horizontal gene transfer via virus/bacterial transmission is normal in nature. I did a quick search and found it does occur in single cell bacteria but did not find an instance of it occurring in more developed (trees/humans/etc) organisms. Can you find references documenting the occurrence and examples of this?</p>
<p>GMO is a new…</p>
<p><a href="http://silvopasture.ning.com/?vkey=2bc76a7e2e3860487ba343ca49e4b486&xg_source=msg_verify_email">T</a>hanks Brett,</p>
<p>The article states that horizontal gene transfer via virus/bacterial transmission is normal in nature. I did a quick search and found it does occur in single cell bacteria but did not find an instance of it occurring in more developed (trees/humans/etc) organisms. Can you find references documenting the occurrence and examples of this?</p>
<p>GMO is a new thing to most people, and what has turned off most is the way Monsanto et al use it to control the food supply with total disregard for consequences. For example (and you can find these studies) GM crops have 7% reduced yield, increased requirements for pesticide use, fertilizer use and irrigation. Wild weeds are taking in the GM organisms which means that new GM plants need to be made and new, more effective (more toxic?) sprays developed and used. Agent Orange is being considered (used already?) in South America.</p>
<p>And the human health consequences of GMO crops are another thing. Every GM study in the US (short term studies, conducted by the companies or sponsored by them) shows little to no consequences in the short term. HOWEVER, there are over 500 studies in Europe/Russia showing health effects from liver problems to death. These are not minor "side effects", they are major health issues. If GM is so safe why cant European / Russian scientists replicate the US manufacturer studies? that is the point of the scientific method; hypothesis, experiment, etc. then replicate the studies. During that replication the scientists are not trying to "prove" what was done, they try to disprove the theory, show the holes in it. In this way (kinda like culling/pruning) we arrive at a more correct theory.</p>
<p>Lots more but my point is that though GM Chestnuts may be fine and dandy, because of the devious/criminal methods used by big US corporations to push GM crops and increase THEIR profits, many are concerned and distrustful of anything GM - a case of the baby being thrown out with the bathwater...</p>
<p> </p> Another related article on th…tag:silvopasture.ning.com,2015-01-28:6457695:Comment:116382015-01-28T23:33:03.496ZBrett Chedzoyhttp://silvopasture.ning.com/profile/BrettChedzoy
<p>Another related article on this topic:…</p>
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<p>Another related article on this topic:</p>
<p><span style="color: #1f497d; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><a href="http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/16/how-genetic-engineering-can-save-the-iconic-americ.aspx">http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/16/how-genetic-engineering-can-save-the-iconic-americ.aspx</a></span> </p> My criticism on GMO's is not…tag:silvopasture.ning.com,2015-01-20:6457695:Comment:113602015-01-20T02:46:14.484ZBen Hartwell http://silvopasture.ning.com/profile/BenHartwell
<p>My criticism on GMO's is not the GMO's themselves but what the GMO's do, in most case that means an ever increasing use of Glyphosate. I believe in certain uses of Glyphosate, but now we have created resistance and more crops in the rotation leading to an ever increasing use which may have some very bad consequences that I won't get into. That said, I don't see that as a problem with GMO Chestnut trees.</p>
<p>My criticism on GMO's is not the GMO's themselves but what the GMO's do, in most case that means an ever increasing use of Glyphosate. I believe in certain uses of Glyphosate, but now we have created resistance and more crops in the rotation leading to an ever increasing use which may have some very bad consequences that I won't get into. That said, I don't see that as a problem with GMO Chestnut trees.</p> Brett this is one where we wi…tag:silvopasture.ning.com,2014-12-28:6457695:Comment:113342014-12-28T19:20:55.812ZKeith Ohlingerhttp://silvopasture.ning.com/profile/Keithohlinger
Brett this is one where we will have to disagree. I fell in love with the Chestnut as a boy. I would play with boxes full of them from the tree outside, I knew them as horse chestnuts. I now raise some of the B3F3 chestnuts from the American Chestnut Foundation along with some Chinese Chestnuts. I too would love to see them restored within my lifetime however I see the failings of the GMO ideas in other areas of farming. The problem is the "real" genes in place now have been naturally selected…
Brett this is one where we will have to disagree. I fell in love with the Chestnut as a boy. I would play with boxes full of them from the tree outside, I knew them as horse chestnuts. I now raise some of the B3F3 chestnuts from the American Chestnut Foundation along with some Chinese Chestnuts. I too would love to see them restored within my lifetime however I see the failings of the GMO ideas in other areas of farming. The problem is the "real" genes in place now have been naturally selected in real world conditions for countless years. We pretend that just because we can splice a gene that we also know all the other functions that gene serves, and the fact is that we don't. And as a living creature it could care less what we know or don't it wants to live and it will pollinate. Once the genie is out of the bottle we can't get it back inside. It is out there for good. I would rather forego my dream and hope that someday we could do it with cross breeding then push it and get a mistake. Just my two cents.