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Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ben Harris Sep 29, 2020. 14 Replies

As I thin some woods and open up some edge lines, I'm hoping to seed some perennial shade-tolerant forages. I'm mainly focused on wildlife at this point (I don't yet own livestock), and hope to get…Continue

Searching for tree seeds

Started Jan 11, 2020 0 Replies

Hey y'all,I'm in search of tree seeds - fruits, nuts, fodder, N fixers, etc. Do you have favorite seed/nut sources or cultivars? I'm looking for production and vigor. Disease resistance will reveal…Continue

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Ben Harris replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Hey Richard, That's the ecological trajectory I've taken. Natives are recovering quickly, and I'm holding off on seeding anything else until livestock (and maximizing their production) becomes an immediate reality. Y'all better…"
Sep 29, 2020
Richard H Bend replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"If wildlife rather than grazing areas for domestic animals is your focus, you need to focus on native biomass rather than non-native biomass, most of which is not usable, or not efficiently usable by wildlife. What wildlife you intend to support…"
Sep 26, 2020
Kable Thurlow replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"I would agree with Brett, this is pretty impressive Ben. Thank you for sharing your journey.  Brett, I totally agree with you on trefoil and i have observed the same things here in Michigan, Trefoil is only growing out in the full sun areas of…"
Sep 11, 2020
Brett Chedzoy replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Impressive, Ben - and clear that you're carefully thinking it all through"
Sep 10, 2020
Sienna Valente-Blough replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"That's great! Thanks for the feedback Ben!"
Sep 10, 2020
Ben Harris replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Hi Sienna, I haven't planted anything, just created the opportunity for the seed bank to express itself. This area is in a floodplain along a riverbank that usually floods at least once/year, often 2-3 times per year. A few years ago, this was…"
Sep 10, 2020
Sienna Valente-Blough replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Hey Ben, Your forest looks great so far after your selective tree thinning! Were those grasses that you currently have already present when you thinned or did you plant them? We have a few goats and have been selectively thinning our woods and using…"
Sep 10, 2020
Ben Harris replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Yeah, lots of understory trees, for sure; I've tried not to open things up too fast. A good portion of them are shell bark hickory and pawpaw, which I like for the wildlife value (and, for myself...pawpaws are delicious). Many are other…"
Aug 7, 2020
Brett Chedzoy replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Ben, From the photo, it appears that your nice trees are well-spaced for silvopasture, but that there are still a significant number of small-diameter stems - most or all of which are probably non-commercial species and/or suppressed shade-tolerant…"
Aug 7, 2020
Ben Harris replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Thanks, Brett! Unfortunately, stilt grass is growing in the sunnier spots right now. BUT in sections of the woods that I selectively thinned 1-2 years ago, the same stilt grass has given way to a much more diverse mix of cool and warm season grasses…"
Aug 6, 2020
Brett Chedzoy replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Limited shade tolerance studies indicate that Reed Canary, Orchardgrass and Tall Fescue and Bluegrass are amongst the most shade-tolerant cool season grasses, roughly in that order.  However, varieties within species seem to matter.   The…"
Aug 6, 2020
Kable Thurlow replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Again, I am not sure where you are located, but in my regular pastures in central MI, i have a fair amount of trefoil, which i like. I wonder how that would perform in a silvopasture. If any on this forum can weigh in, i would like to learn about…"
Aug 4, 2020
Ben Harris replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Thanks, Kable. I've looked at orchard grass, and it's towards the top of my list. If only it spread more prolifically... That it's so deep-rooting is appealing, for sure."
Aug 3, 2020
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Aug 3, 2020
Kable Thurlow replied to Ben Harris's discussion Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?
"Hi Benjamin, here is MI, our forage specialist recommended Orchard Grass as one of the grass species. Not sure what you would plant in your area. Good Luck! "
Aug 3, 2020
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Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?

As I thin some woods and open up some edge lines, I'm hoping to seed some perennial shade-tolerant forages. I'm mainly focused on wildlife at this point (I don't yet own livestock), and hope to get perennial or re-seeding annuals with substantial root mass to break up heavy clay North Carolina soils. Recommendations for species / mixes / seed sources? I've done some preliminary research, but am hesitant to buy mixes without specific input from silvopasture practitioners.See More
Jul 30, 2020

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2021 Oxford Real Farming Conference - The Value of Trees in a Hotter Climate

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Shade-tolerant forage seed species and sources?

Started by Ben Harris. Last reply by Ben Harris Sep 29, 2020. 14 Replies

As I thin some woods and open up some edge lines, I'm hoping to seed some perennial shade-tolerant forages. I'm mainly focused on wildlife at this point (I don't yet own livestock), and hope to get…Continue

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